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Acorn Arcade forums: General: Which Raspberry Pi?
 
  Which Raspberry Pi?
  arenaman (17:56 15/9/2019)
  arawnsley (19:24 15/9/2019)
    arenaman (19:35 15/9/2019)
      arawnsley (10:31 16/9/2019)
        arenaman (12:26 16/9/2019)
        arenaman (20:32 26/9/2019)
 
Michael Stubbs Message #124569, posted by arenaman at 17:56, 15/9/2019
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Thought this would be better in a new thread instead of tagging it on to the other one about returning to RISC OS.

So let's say I have decided to return to RISC OS, because I have.

My choice of Pi has been narrowed down to:

Pi 2B because ArtWorks 2 works fully on that
Pi 3B or 3B+ because they are much faster

Would running Aemulor on the Pi 3B or 3B+ be a better solution for ArtWorks 2 than running a Pi 2 which is considerably slower than a Pi 3?

If I went for a Pi 3B, does the 3B+ offer any advantage over the 3B for RISC OS usage?
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Andrew Rawnsley Message #124570, posted by arawnsley at 19:24, 15/9/2019, in reply to message #124569
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Artworks 2 doesn't need Aemulor. AFAIK it also works on Pi3.

IIRC from the last thread, we pretty much concluded Pi3 was the best choice for you, esp as a Pi2 "1.2" is actually a gimped Pi3 anyway (ie. unless you source an old model, you may well be getting the same thing).

Best just to capitulate and go for a full Pi3. Plus, the number of things that won't work are minimal, and none of the applications you mentioned would be affected AFAIK.

Edit as for B+, it seems to give 200Mhz extra without overclocking, and slightly better networking. However, since networking is still over USB, IIRC the USB-ethernet performance was very similar to B (essentially USB bus is pretty congested on Pi).

Translation, get a Pi 3 B+ unless it is more than about 10ukp over a 3B.

[Edited by arawnsley at 19:27, 15/9/2019]
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Michael Stubbs Message #124571, posted by arenaman at 19:35, 15/9/2019, in reply to message #124570
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Thanks for the reply.

Artworks 2 doesn't need Aemulor. AFAIK it also works on Pi3.
I have since pumped Mr Wuerthner for information, and according to him, not all of ArtWorks 2 runs on Pi 3 and above. I should have mentioned that to put the new thread in context. Sorry!

IIRC from the last thread, we pretty much concluded Pi3 was the best choice for you, esp as a Pi2 "1.2" is actually a gimped Pi3 anyway (ie. unless you source an old model, you may well be getting the same thing).
That we did. It was just the ArtWorks 2 question.

Translation, get a Pi 3 B+ unless it is more than about 10ukp over a 3B.
Well, that answers the B vs B+. Thanks!

I'm not used to struggling to select a RISC OS machine. It used to be so simple - I couldn't afford any. Now there's affordable choice!
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Andrew Rawnsley Message #124572, posted by arawnsley at 10:31, 16/9/2019, in reply to message #124571
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I've purposely avoided advertising thus far, since your budget is clearly more Pi than "Pie in the Sky" (sorry, couldn't resist).

However, if I was being asked to advise generally, I'd suggest you consider one of our mini.m machines, if you have the funds. You may not have, which is OK - grab one of the Pis and you'll have fun - but the mini.m basically gives you everything, plus the potential to expand with features like SATA SSD etc.

mini.m doesn't have software compatibility issues that you mention, and is basically our ARMX6 (which is many people's main RISC OS box) for half the price.

You'll get faster networking, the potential for *much* faster storage, less congested USB, and up to 4k video "out of the box". I'd probably even throw in the hardware-graphics acceleration add-on.

[Edited by arawnsley at 11:41, 16/9/2019]
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Michael Stubbs Message #124573, posted by arenaman at 12:26, 16/9/2019, in reply to message #124572
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I've purposely avoided advertising thus far, since your budget is clearly more Pi than "Pie in the Sky" (sorry, couldn't resist).

However, if I was being asked to advise generally, I'd suggest you consider one of our mini.m machines, if you have the funds. You may not have, which is OK - grab one of the Pis and you'll have fun - but the mini.m basically gives you everything, plus the potential to expand with features like SATA SSD etc.

mini.m doesn't have software compatibility issues that you mention, and is basically our ARMX6 (which is many people's main RISC OS box) for half the price.

You'll get faster networking, the potential for *much* faster storage, less congested USB, and up to 4k video "out of the box". I'd probably even throw in the hardware-graphics acceleration add-on.

[Edited by arawnsley at 11:41, 16/9/2019]
Your machines are stonkers, and I would dearly like one. Unfortunately, though, the only way it is justifiable to get back into RISC OS right now is through the DIY Pi route.

I can move some stuff like DTP back to RISC OS but some other stuff will have to remain on the Mac because of a lack of software for certain specialised tasks.

That doesn't preclude upgrading in the future, though.
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Michael Stubbs Message #124579, posted by arenaman at 20:32, 26/9/2019, in reply to message #124572
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Andrew, just a quick note to thank you for the further insight. I've actually gone with a Pi 2B v1.1, having thought more about compatibility and the fact at less than £40 it doesn't exactly stop me getting something faster, too.
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